tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post4739455692074991091..comments2024-03-26T15:41:15.852-07:00Comments on Bunker Hill: Let's talk about paint bottlesChristopher(aka Axebreaker)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-39601815112724282532011-02-14T08:51:35.997-08:002011-02-14T08:51:35.997-08:00Hi Mike and welcome!
I like Foundry paints as wel...Hi Mike and welcome!<br /><br />I like Foundry paints as well as they are excellent paints and use them myself quite extensively, just prefer Vallejo over all.<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-69391001244287125692011-02-14T07:57:36.290-08:002011-02-14T07:57:36.290-08:00I thought I was bad with only 200+ bottles of vari...I thought I was bad with only 200+ bottles of various paints. I agree entirely with your assessment of the later GW bottles. I was given about a dozen of these about three years ago and all have made it to the bin because of progressive drying up.Vallejos are my top paints but I am increasingly using Foundry sets from the original paint set.Over Open Sightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07598427337787574766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-79722047259188295542011-02-10T02:37:22.078-08:002011-02-10T02:37:22.078-08:00Thank you for the tip Paul. :-)
Cheers
Christophe...Thank you for the tip Paul. :-)<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-65686271271353959672011-02-10T00:37:05.136-08:002011-02-10T00:37:05.136-08:00Hi,
Sorry I ment to write "I would say the Va...Hi,<br />Sorry I ment to write "I would say the Vallejo and GW (foundation) are my favourite, best white I have found for myself is Coat de Arms".<br />Also I should have mentioned that Formula P3 Skorne Red is a brilliant colour, can't live without it!<br /><br />Great post Christopher. <br /><br />Cheers<br />Paul<br />P.S. with the coat de Arms paints I bought the ACW paint set. Found the colours very light for the intended subject. Just incase anyone planned picking some up.Paulalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03482911273863430204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-71602022537044712972011-02-09T14:25:55.633-08:002011-02-09T14:25:55.633-08:00@TWD
That never occurred to me and nice to know a...@TWD<br /><br />That never occurred to me and nice to know and like you said design over function no doubt.<br /><br />@MiniMike<br /><br />The Foundry 3 step method is fine if you just want some decent looking miniatures at a reasonable speed as the contrast can be quite strong, but if your looking for smooth blends and tones then you have to mix the pots between each stage and trade out others at times and then it works very well.<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-39493078265019151162011-02-09T12:13:21.773-08:002011-02-09T12:13:21.773-08:00Great post and I can only agree. Tried, used them ...Great post and I can only agree. Tried, used them all and even had the doc phobos explosion three weeks ago. Luckely it was grey while painting confederates :-)<br />For a long period of time I did 90%with Foundry but since a year or so more Vallejo than Foundry. I find it easier to control and those easy foundry triads don´t work most of the time anyway.<br /><br />MichaelMiniMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04818743972462962721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-9269800982671716882011-02-09T04:03:02.629-08:002011-02-09T04:03:02.629-08:00The 3rd genration GW paint pots are made to look l...The 3rd genration GW paint pots are made to look like bolter shells.<br />A classic triumph of design over function!<br />TomTWDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921046811399998400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-87276045752062222572011-02-09T02:08:59.575-08:002011-02-09T02:08:59.575-08:00@Giles
I only buy a few certain colours from GW n...@Giles<br /><br />I only buy a few certain colours from GW now that I habitually use to avoid them drying up on me before I use them.<br /><br />@Zerotwentythree<br /><br />I haven't used Reaper's or Coat de Arms, but I will try them as I like trying out paints. Like you I keep some pins nearby to avoid clogged accidents.<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-66627131219149957162011-02-08T21:46:59.193-08:002011-02-08T21:46:59.193-08:00I also agree with most of the summary of paints. I...I also agree with most of the summary of paints. I'm still using a few old bottles of 1st & 2nd gen GW and they've mostly maintained their consistency. I also like the Coat d'Arms paints, which seem to be largely the same product, including bottles. But they're not as accessible to me.<br /><br />I do like the dropper bottles. I use Vallejo and have started using some of the Reaper Master Series, and like them quite a bit, both in terms of the paint quality and the bottles.<br /><br />Two things I've found helpful with the bottles is, first, to put some sort of "agitator" in the Vallejo paints which tend to separate a bit. I used an idea I read of somewhere else, and picked up some small glass beads from the craft store. The second is to keep a pin or tack at my painting desk to clear the clogged dropper bottle. It's far less risky than squeezing until half the bottle blows out the clog, as others have mentioned -- and I did do that that a few times before learning better ;)ZeroTwentythreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00382747835221715170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-69696003002193951402011-02-08T14:14:49.488-08:002011-02-08T14:14:49.488-08:00I totally agree on GW. I still have 2nd generation...I totally agree on GW. I still have 2nd generation bottles going Stornaway, while other paints I bought a year ago have dried up and are useless. I do my nest now to avoid GW paints at all costs - simply a waste of money.<br /><br />GilesGileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01431052344684945450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-75769483039885604382011-02-08T12:39:47.988-08:002011-02-08T12:39:47.988-08:00Thank you everyone for giving me your opinions. :-...Thank you everyone for giving me your opinions. :-)<br /><br />@Angry<br />Yep, at times if your in a hurry you can squeeze to much.<br /><br />@Ubique<br /><br />Yes, the nozzle is useful for that if used carefully.<br /><br />@Ray,<br /><br />I haven't used the brand, but I'll trust your opinion.<br /><br />@Doc<br /><br />Good one! :-0 I usually stick a pin in to avoid that if I think trouble is ahead. :-)<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-23373089152770639522011-02-08T12:24:47.345-08:002011-02-08T12:24:47.345-08:00Well, wasting the paint is one problem when the no...Well, wasting the paint is one problem when the nozzle clogs. What's worse (and this has happened to me) is if your blue paint bottle blocks, you press harder and after the explosion all you want to and can say is something along the lines of: "For they may take our paints, but they will never take our freedooooom!"<br />:DThe Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08610421577798361733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-17904961809859297842011-02-08T12:17:47.037-08:002011-02-08T12:17:47.037-08:00Very interesting post, Vallejo get my vote, though...Very interesting post, Vallejo get my vote, though like the angry lurker said, somtimes you squeeze a bit too hard and waste the paint. I've never got on with GW paints, I can't justify spending the money on them. I own loads of Miniatures paints, sold by Redout miniatures, http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=3f108fc645acfa5638437161159f62a5. These in my opinion are as good as Vallejo. Their only problem is that the paint somtimes clogs up the screw top lid. Therey're not that extensive, but well worth a go.Ray Rousellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352596392520905197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-40297704759081920722011-02-08T12:02:18.727-08:002011-02-08T12:02:18.727-08:00Great review. I agree with your comments on the GW...Great review. I agree with your comments on the GW paints. Still got some of the first edition ones and still useable. I've also drifted to vallejo over the years.Neil Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05796937765907984193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-9647087735043221062011-02-08T10:53:30.198-08:002011-02-08T10:53:30.198-08:00Very interesting post. I find the nozzle on the Va...Very interesting post. I find the nozzle on the Vallejo bottles allows me to add just the right amount of paint to create lighter/darker shades of the base paints (generally GW Foundation)I use.<br /><br />Regards,<br />MattUbique Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04595735455445658424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-41384957552058572442011-02-08T10:31:17.533-08:002011-02-08T10:31:17.533-08:00@Paul's bod's
Ahhh, I've used paints ...@Paul's bod's<br /><br />Ahhh, I've used paints similar to what your talking about,but only for basing and such and not on my miniatures. If it works for you then that's what counts and cheaper no doubt.Christopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-44834373042692434412011-02-08T10:12:41.171-08:002011-02-08T10:12:41.171-08:00Agree with you wholeheartedly about games workshop...Agree with you wholeheartedly about games workshop and only some of their foundation paints and inks now.<br />Vallejo are king with me, the only drawback being sometimes you get more than you want out of the bottle.<br />I only have foundry paints because of some good deals at shows and are rarely used. Very good post my friend.The Angry Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01227314379603418332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-25549659291546151572011-02-08T09:39:35.963-08:002011-02-08T09:39:35.963-08:00Marabu...it´s cheap and bloody good paint. For 3 e...Marabu...it´s cheap and bloody good paint. For 3 euros I get 50ml...add a bit of washing up liquid to my "thining" water and bingo. Same as the other paints. <br />I only have, Black,white, brown,anthracite, red, yellow, blue and middle brown and sand. I have also have P3 gold and flesh (games workshop or?) but the hinge on the lids broke off and Humbrol silver in the square "box".<br />Cheers<br />PaulPaul´s Bodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07698894821198907112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-50210443576200352082011-02-08T09:21:12.053-08:002011-02-08T09:21:12.053-08:00@Biglee
That's a very good point about bottles...@Biglee<br />That's a very good point about bottles being knocked over! I'll edit my blog and add that.Thank you for pointing that out.Your also right about just buying the Vallejo range in it's entirety is in the end cheaper then replacing the GW stuff on habitual basis.<br /><br />@Doc<br />Your right about Foundry sticking cotton in their ears when it comes to listening. Still, their bottles are good if not as good as Vallejo.<br /><br />In regards to the nozzle splitting on some Vallejo bottles at least they had the decency for us to be able to unscrew the nozzle and use the paint "the old fashioned" way when this happens to avoid unwanted splurges of paint.Also, it gives an option for those who don't like a nozzle and that's a mark of a company with the painter in mind.Yep, Vallejo is the best in every department IMHO as well.<br /><br />@Paulalba<br /><br />Yes, GW putting their metallics in same bottle as their Foundation paints is new and a good idea on their part.They would be wise to do the same with the rest....oh a drop their prices for the paint of course.<br />The thinness on some of the new Foundry paint is of concern and I hope it's just a few colours as you hinted at or they will be heading for a train wreck if they are not careful. <br />I've never tried Coat de Arms and so can't really say.<br /><br />@Paul Bods<br />Of course I'm a bit surprised,but everyone to their own tastes of course.<br />Out of curiosity what brand do you use and why please?<br /><br />@Dr. Willett's Workshop <br />A smaller bottle isn't a problem when quality improves, but like you said they need to reduce the price which is the problem.<br /><br />Cheers<br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-68963683762893055382011-02-08T08:52:02.104-08:002011-02-08T08:52:02.104-08:00I couldn't agree more with what you say about ...I couldn't agree more with what you say about the different stages of GW paints. Their pots are getting worse, smaller and more expensive all the time, quite a performance.<br />I reallly like Vallejo too.Dr. Willett's Workshophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513780769117472105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-32825674987237504682011-02-08T08:47:36.343-08:002011-02-08T08:47:36.343-08:00Don´t use any of them....so I can´t comment :-D
Mu...Don´t use any of them....so I can´t comment :-D<br />Must admit to buying Vallejo...trying it onece nad never again.<br />Cheers<br />paulPaul´s Bodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07698894821198907112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-69275368583156587222011-02-08T08:27:12.702-08:002011-02-08T08:27:12.702-08:00I´m a Foundry/Vallejo man too. I only use a few GW...I´m a Foundry/Vallejo man too. I only use a few GW bottles, very few.EinarOlafsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06649565493777035186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-4596286027578776682011-02-08T08:09:50.874-08:002011-02-08T08:09:50.874-08:00Really interesting Christopher,
I am very new to V...Really interesting Christopher,<br />I am very new to Vallejo (as before the internet I didn't really know where to find them) but I am using them more and more and have become a big fan (as a clueless amateur I have always found the nozzle on them tricky, squeezing the paint out instead of working from the lid is very new to me but I am getting there). I also like the GW 2nd Generation and also the foundation paints. I just picked up some of their metallics in the foundation type bottles although the bottles are totally transparent, could this be new as my original ones where in the 4th generation bottles? the Foundry paints are growing on me but some of the darker colours can be very thin.<br />I would say the Vallejo and GW are my favourite, best white I have found for myself is Coat de Arms<br />Cheers<br />PaulPaulalbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03482911273863430204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-1022357801339586742011-02-08T08:06:47.530-08:002011-02-08T08:06:47.530-08:00Handily, GW seem to be currently migrating their s...Handily, GW seem to be currently migrating their standard paint range over to the new-style bottles (although it's less handy that 98% of my gw paints are in the previous style bottles, drying out as we speak...)myincublisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10821486616924046474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5649434062142208873.post-30793102511372983052011-02-08T07:56:42.661-08:002011-02-08T07:56:42.661-08:00Well, I'm not one hundred per cent happy with ...Well, I'm not one hundred per cent happy with any of them, but I do come to the same conclusion by being a fan of both Vallejo and Foundry.<br />I really would like for foundry to change into the nozzle bottles really. Their lids are still messy and I often find myself cleaning them with q-tips and water. Sadly foundry are critism resistant!<br />Vallejo have the best system! Even if the nozzle makes a mess it is containable and easy to remove. What annoys me is that the newer see-through nozzles have the rude tendency to split and the mess increases.The Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08610421577798361733noreply@blogger.com